{"id":186,"date":"2002-04-27T10:50:00","date_gmt":"2002-04-27T10:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kermitmurray.com\/blog\/?p=186"},"modified":"2010-09-06T22:11:20","modified_gmt":"2010-09-07T03:11:20","slug":"186","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kermitmurray.com\/genealogy\/186\/","title":{"rendered":"Ross and Hargrave"},"content":{"rendered":"

QBC-MONTREAL-L: [MONTREAL] Re: Ross and Hargrave<\/a><\/p>\n


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From: “Malcolm & Jennifer Sissons”
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Subject: [MONTREAL] Re: Ross and Hargrave
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:00:27 -0700
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HI JOANNE
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Yes there were Ross descendants of James Ross and Mary Hargrave who went to
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Benton Co, Indiana. Another branch of the Hargrave family went to Illinois.
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I have some lists of who they were and how they were related but not much
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other detail I’m afraid. I have copied this to two Ross descendants as
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well.<\/p>\n

>
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> -Where is Medicine Hat????
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Medicine Hat is in the SE corner of Alberta. It is on the TransCanada
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Highway and the main line of the Canadian Pacific Railway and straddles the
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South Saskatchewan River. Established 1883, same year as James Hargrave
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arrived.<\/p>\n

The Hargrave family was very strong Presbyterian so that is generally where
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I look (cemeteries, birth registries, etc.). These Rosses are definitely
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tied in. The Hargrave family came from Kelso and Hawick in Roxburghshire on
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the borders of Scotland. They had originally been English prior to 1645 but
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were covenanters and so ended up taking refuge in Scotland.<\/p>\n

I don’t know if this helps you with the Strachan family but you should not
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get too hung up on the spelling because I think it was likely pronounced
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more like Strawn back then. I have McRaes and McKenzies in my mother’s line
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and for a while I was thrown off by MacRa and MacKennie spellings but in
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fact that is how the names were pronounced in the 1850s. In Gaelic I don’t
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think you pronounce a consonant which preceeds an H so Strachan would be
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Stra’an although I don’t think it is necessarily a Gaelic name?<\/p>\n

Thanks for this information. I will print and cross reference to the names
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I have. If you want to see the families I have for that area, let me know.<\/p>\n

Cheers
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Malcolm<\/p>\n

>
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> James Ross was on the 1841 , Jamestown , Beauharius (later Chateauguay) Co
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> QUEBEC census. Pg 1812, Line #13.
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> James ROSS, farmer, nine in family, two natives of Scotland, 7 natives of
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> Canada, in Provance 23 yrs, one male under 5, 1 female under 5, 2 males et
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> 5&14, 1 fem between 5 & 14, one single male bet 14 & 18, one married male
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> bet 30 and 60, 1 married fem bet 14 & 45.
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> Number of acres: 78, number of people church of Scotland 9.
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> Neighbors were my Alexander STRACHAN (mispelled Straghan), and Andrew
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> STRACHAN (Straghan). The three heads of family all seemed to have been
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in
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> Canada for 22 \/ 23 years. And all were born in Scotland.
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> ——-
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> On the 1851 QUEBEC census, unfortunately, the first part of the ROSS
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family
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> is missing as I was copying the page my Ellen (SYMNS) STRACHAN, widow of
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> Alexander, and family were on.
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> Page 119 begins with the tail end of the ROSS family:
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> John Ross, born Canada, Presbyterian, age 16
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> Mary Ross age 12
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> Robert Ross age 9
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> June Hardgrave age 49 born Canada
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> ———————
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> On the 1870 Benton Co IN census was:
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>
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> HARGRAVE, Andrew, age 61, farmer RE 00\/ PP $800, born Scotland
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> Margaret age 46? 66? born Canada
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> James 16 born Canada
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> Andrew 13 b Illinois
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> e;ozabetj 10 born Illinois,
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> Lillie (?) 8 born Illinois
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> John 5 born Illinois
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> Pg 6
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> BROWNE, Allen 30 farmer RE $3200\/700 born NY
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> Margaret 23 born Canada
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> HARGRAVE, Jane, famale 28 Teacher, born Canada
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> WILSON, Matt 17 laborer born Canada
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> PIERSON, Cris? 20 laborer born Ohio
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> HARGRAVE, Jennett , female 18 domestic, born Canada
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>
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> Page 6
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> ROSS, Josoeph age 31, RE $4800\/PP $1000, born Canada,
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> Margaret 36 born Canada
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> Mary 11 born Illinois
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> Agness 5 born Ill
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> Ela 4 born Ill
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> James 1\/12 born Indiana,
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> ALLEN, Thomas 18 farm laborer born Canada
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> ————-
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> In York Twp, Benton Co, IN, 1900 census. Page 04a
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>
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> Line 49 Household 75.
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> ROSS, James , head, born Jan 1829, age 71, widowed, born Canada, parents
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> both born Scotland, into country 1876, in US for 24 yrs, Naaturalized
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> citizen, Occupation: Bond Holder, own property, free and clear, house,
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can
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> read , write and speak English.
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> Line 50, (living in the same household with James ROSS)
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> HARGROVE, Jane , Relationshiop to head of household: Servant, born
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March
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> 1842, age 58, single, born Canada, occupation: servant. Unknown
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how
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> many years in country, etc. Can read & write and speak Eng.
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> ———————-
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> Member of these ROSSW and HARGRAVE families were also on the 1880 Benton
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Co
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> IN census.
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> ————————–
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> My STRACHAN and BONNETT families were also in this same census for 1870
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and
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> 1880.
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> David STRACHAN and family later moved to South Dakota, thmas STRACHAN
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stayed
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> in Indiana, my BONNETT family moved across the state line to Sheldon,
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> Illinois.
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> The STRACHAN family and the ROSS and HARGRAVE\/HARGROVE families all seem
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to
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> move to the same places up to a point. I always suspected that they were
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> interrelated in some way, probably through the wives.
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> Alexander STRACHAN’s wife Ellen was a SIM \/ SYMNS. He died in 1849 near
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> Ormstown (Jamestown).
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>
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> I have really good luck tracking down allied families. Tlhey frequently
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> know more about the families’ history than members of my own immediate
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> family do.
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>
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> Hope this helps some.
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> Joanne in California, USA
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>
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QBC-MONTREAL-L: [MONTREAL] Re: Ross and Hargrave From: “Malcolm & Jennifer Sissons” Subject: [MONTREAL] Re: Ross and Hargrave Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:00:27 -0700 HI JOANNE Yes there were Ross descendants of James Ross and Mary Hargrave who went to Benton Co, Indiana. Another branch of the Hargrave family went to Illinois. I have some … <\/p>\n

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